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0:00Okay, we're live.

0:07Hello, testing, testing.

0:12Let's see if this is coming through on the

0:26channel.

0:30So the interesting thing is the lag has

0:33increased.

0:34So what I see in my screen and what I see

0:37on what's seemingly being broadcast, there

0:42's now a greater lag.

0:44Cool. Okay, so we are live.

0:47Nice.

0:50All right, so say something.

0:52Something.

0:54Okay.

0:55Today I had pancakes and rice. I didn't

0:57have pancakes and rice, but it's the two

0:58food stuffs that came to mind.

1:03I love this.

1:05Straight away, which is a terrible

1:06combination of food for anyone, let alone

1:08someone who's apparently meant to have a

1:12lot of herbs and spices in their cuisine.

1:19How's it coming across?

1:21Good. We have four people watching.

1:24Oh, really? Hello.

1:28Angela's online.

1:32Let's see what this looks like. There we go

1:33.

1:34Oh, look at that. Amazing.

1:36So I think for everyone who's watching, all

1:38three or four of you, thank you for tuning

1:40in.

1:41We didn't announce this that was going to

1:42happen. We're testing this for tomorrow.

1:45So this is cool.

1:48I can keep switching to them.

1:51Yeah, I was going to say the interesting

1:52thing here would be, could we get like a,

1:55you know, on Twitch, they have the fading

1:57comments?

1:58We can, we can.

1:59So in order to do that, I need something

2:02called Streamlabs.

2:04Yeah.

2:07Toby Lober, I hope I've said that correctly

2:09.

2:10Let me know if I haven't.

2:13Something I think we're going to have to

2:14learn, obviously, everyone's name correctly

2:16.

2:17Yeah, no, 100%. It's your name after all,

2:19right? Like it's a thing you should get

2:20right.

2:21Exactly, exactly.

2:23So for everyone who's joining in, we're

2:25just testing the live stream for basically

2:28the rest of this week.

2:30I am doing it on a laptop I got 48 hours

2:33ago.

2:34Ravi is doing it on a laptop he set up five

2:37minutes ago.

2:38Which we've not opened for a good three or

2:40four months.

2:42But I think it's the best one to use and

2:44most stable one to use for audio quality.

2:47The question I have got, Tim.

2:49Should we bang on Twitter handles alongside

2:51this as well underneath the...

2:53Good question. Good question.

2:55Good question.

2:57Twitter handles.

2:59Yeah, okay, I guess you like a bit of self

3:01promo.

3:02So let's see what that looks like.

3:04I mean, this is on your channel.

3:06So I'm like, I'm now trying to piggyback

3:08off your hype.

3:09So what I'll do is I'll add mine.

3:14Where do you want them though? That's the

3:15problem.

3:16Yeah, this is it. That's too intrusive at

3:19the top.

3:20Yeah.

3:22Could you put a carriage return underneath

3:24your name and then have it as one big

3:26bubble and a wide bubble?

3:28Carriage returns, Ravi. Come on.

3:31Carriage returns. I went to hit enter and

3:34...

3:34Oh no, shift does work. Okay.

3:36Oh, this is good.

3:39Does it look better? I feel like it could

3:40look better in like, it would give us a

3:43nice panel underneath us.

3:45Okay, let's see. Oh, I don't like how thick

3:48it is now. This is not good.

3:51Could you change the font size of the

3:53bottom bit?

3:55No, it's all one font, I believe.

3:59Okay.

4:00Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

4:02no.

4:03Because if you do it like as half this...

4:05Oh, hello.

4:06This is kind of working, but the scale kind

4:08of goes... I can't make it smaller than

4:10that.

4:11Oh, interesting.

4:13Can you not make the Tim smaller?

4:16I'm trying that now. I think I have to

4:19literally set this up correctly.

4:23Look what it's doing.

4:27I feel like we're live testing Ecamm live

4:30here.

4:31Yeah, that's fine. Let's just leave it as

4:33is. Let's ignore the...

4:35I will take that feedback on board and I

4:36will improve on this for tomorrow. So let

4:39me take a nap.

4:41All you need to know is Ravi and Tim, let's

4:43be honest here. That's the key.

4:46No, all you need to know is that you need

4:48fans on Twitter.

4:50So that's...

4:55All right, let's get this changed up here.

4:58So Twitter handles.

5:01I don't know why I'm doing that because my

5:02Twitter is very dead these days

5:05after being locked inside a football club.

5:11Big props to my brother. He's online.

5:13Hello.

5:15He thinks we should be doing Twitter

5:16handles.

5:20I believe that's two on one.

5:22Yeah. Where should we put this?

5:24So what I'm going to do is I'm going to

5:25fast forward to like a section of the last

5:28year's conference.

5:30So I've got a video in the background.

5:33Now to do this, so you need an animal.

5:36Let me pause this and let me ask everyone

5:37who is watching.

5:39Oh, Craig's watching as well. Hello, Craig.

5:41Hey, Craig.

5:43You're watching a very raw test run.

5:45Yeah, this is literally real time setting

5:48up stream.

5:50Let's see how the audio sounds. So let us

5:52know if we sound too loud compared to the

5:53stream, basically.

5:55So give us some live feedback.

5:58This is a guy called Frank, I believe. Is

6:03that his name?

6:03Frank. Frank will do.

6:05Frank will do.

6:07I feel like should we create Bingo?

6:11I saw that the Tableau Twitter account or

6:14the social media team had like Bingo cards

6:16for stuff to do before conference.

6:17Oh, yes.

6:18Should we do like a Tableau keynote bingo?

6:22I'd say like maybe maybe at the start of

6:23the stream, we're like, right, let's just p

6:25out stuff that we think they're going to say

6:28.

6:28So for this organization, we need to have

6:32those slides done in advance.

6:34Even more personal, more relevant.

6:37It's a lot of preparation that we are not

6:39ready for doing.

6:41And whenever people need.

6:44Yeah, I'm going to have to do the

6:45preparation.

6:49To get it integrated with the tool.

6:53OK, yeah. What would you put? We'd have to

6:56put some sort of.

6:58There's going to be some Salesforce ones

6:59that are easy to do.

7:02Ohana.

7:03Yeah.

7:04David Bounds.

7:05Classima 360.

7:06Synergy. All those kind of things.

7:10Anyone watching got any Tableau keynote b

7:12ingos, chuck them in the chat.

7:15But most importantly, we've just talked

7:17over a segment with the video in the

7:19background.

7:20How did that sound? Synergy.

7:25Definitely.

7:27Yeah, absolutely.

7:30Pineapple.

7:32Craig's on the chat about pineapple.

7:35I feel like the pineapple was possibly over

7:38used.

7:39Right.

7:41So let me pause the stream. So the way I'm

7:45doing this is I've actually got an embedded

7:46YouTube video on a separate screen because

7:49that's all I'm using doesn't doesn't let

7:50you just put a video in the URL.

7:53So I have to have a full screen running.

7:55And that's what it's actually using to play

7:58in the background, which is fun.

8:02But let's go over here.

8:05Background should be louder. Interesting.

8:07So contrary to your feedback there.

8:10Should be a bit louder. I'll add it to 42.

8:13I'll add it louder.

8:14I think it's because we stopped talking. So

8:16if I play this again.

8:17I'm often out and about. I'm not always

8:19checking Tableau or checking email.

8:21Sort of a good balance. I am on my phone

8:23and I'm always on Slack.

8:26I'm trying to figure out bringing Tableau

8:29to Slack.

8:30Now you can put your data front and center.

8:32Yeah, this makes sense. I think.

8:34Because as long as what we're saying is

8:36discernible over the audio.

8:38Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

8:40It looks like I just got an alert about the

8:41error rate in our service.

8:43Pretty happy with that. That's not better.

8:45I want the feedback. I think it's good.

8:47The image of the alert so I can see why it

8:49fired from my viewers.

8:52I think our screen position is also OK for

8:54have to do some real time moving.

8:56I'll have to do that. Quick way to build a

8:58data culture.

8:59Yeah. Then to get data right into the flow

9:00of we can keep because I usually be like

9:04the key bits.

9:05Tableau slides usually have it up and to

9:08the left.

9:09The best place we could put ourselves is

9:11the bottom right maybe.

9:13Yeah.

9:15So Craig says his connection keeps dropping

9:17out.

9:18It's yours dropping out right now. What do

9:21you see?

9:22I'm now getting a bit of ricketyness.

9:25OK. This might be me calling Virgin Media

9:28tomorrow.

9:29Yeah.

9:31Interesting.

9:34I don't think I'm doing anything else.

9:39It might be me.

9:41I might need to get an ethernet cable and

9:44run upstairs.

9:46Having to a few people. That's good to know

9:48.

9:49This is why we do this the day before.

9:52Yeah.

9:54The one time I'm going to have to tether to

9:57my phone to get 5G.

10:02Good work.

10:04We want to give you the best of Tableau.

10:06Completely in the browser.

10:07It's a bit choppy.

10:09The other thing I was thinking is in terms

10:11of the audience chat right now with your

10:15widget you've got.

10:16You click to bring them on.

10:18I click to bring them on. Exactly.

10:20We want a stream labs overlay.

10:24I know what you mean.

10:26Yeah.

10:29If I do this and bring up Chrome.

10:33So stream labs do.

10:37See what happens if I do this.

10:42What are you trying to do?

10:45I'm seeing if it makes a difference but I

10:46've just realized because of my laptop.

10:49This laptop I've got here has a grand total

10:53of two USB ports.

10:55Oh wow. You need a hub.

10:57I need a hub. Have I got a hub Tim? I've

11:01not got a hub.

11:03Okay, let me set up the stream labs thing.

11:07We get to do it on the stream so we can see

11:08if it actually works.

11:10Continue with YouTube.

11:17I'm going to have to stream to myself

11:19tomorrow.

11:21Here we go.

11:24Go to dashboard.

11:28All widgets.

11:31Chat box.

11:34Here we go.

11:38Click to show widget URL. Copy.

11:40Okay, let's try this.

11:44Let's hope this works.

11:46Stream labs.

11:51No, that's the wrong one.

11:57Right.

12:00Interesting.

12:18Cheers, Craig. I'll catch you tomorrow,

12:20hopefully.

12:21Cheers, Craig. Take it easy, mate.

12:25Interesting.

12:28I think I'm going to need to do some more

12:35extreme setup because the settings are

12:39saved.

12:40What are you thinking?

12:42Right. I think I know what's going on.

12:47Stream labs have me over a barrel here

12:50because I think I need to upgrade to get

12:53the overlay working without using their

12:55application.

12:57But that's doable.

12:59Oh, interesting. Here we go.

13:02Mark Edwards popping up there. That's gone

13:05straight in.

13:07So I feel like you need just a...

13:12We're not quite gamers, so we don't have

13:14like tons of things coming in.

13:17Yeah, exactly. I don't think we will.

13:23There you go.

13:25I set it to 20 seconds.

13:29Let's not do that. Let's keep it.

13:33Maybe like five, six minutes.

13:37The maximum is 200 seconds. So that's about

13:40as long as I can.

13:41Just about two and a half minutes.

13:43So who's willing to post another comment?

13:47Yeah, can we get some like...

13:49Where's everyone tuning in from? If

13:50everyone just says hello and says where

13:52they're coming in from, that'll probably

13:55give us enough.

13:56There you go.

13:59Good.

14:03Yeah, Tim is posting on his own stream.

14:07Nice.

14:09So this is weird. It's sort of weirdly

14:12right aligned.

14:14And then, OK, we might want to get the

14:16central line because really it's better

14:19here.

14:20Yeah, Norfolk.

14:24The enemy.

14:29As a Suffolk boy, Norfolk is lovely. It's

14:33just Norwich that I don't like.

14:35Sydney, Australia coming in. There you go.

14:37I love it.

14:39So this is kind of working, right? And they

14:41disappear as things go.

14:44So Latoya from Texas.

14:46This is good.

14:48I'm glad we're getting people in for sound

14:50checks now.

14:52Yeah, yeah. The other thing is a height

14:55differential does not represent reality.

15:00So what I need to do is bring my screen

15:03down so that I can bring the camera down so

15:07I don't look so short.

15:09So you don't look shorter than I am, which

15:11is not actually true.

15:14It's still not going to work because you're

15:16just on some other level here.

15:19Yeah, that 20 second lag you're seeing,

15:22Mark, is just YouTube.

15:24YouTube does this in general, I think.

15:27So I've set the stream to low latency, but

15:30we think there might be some issue with my

15:32own connection.

15:33So that might be what's causing the issue.

15:36I can only really troubleshoot that once

15:37the stream has ended because I don't want

15:40to kill the Wi-Fi.

15:42I feel like there's not a dress code right

15:45now. There is no coordination.

15:49It feels like that.

15:51It does.

15:53Let's see who's on.

15:54What are you wearing tomorrow, Tim?

15:56Are you wearing a Zen t-shirt or are you

15:57just going for generic data?

15:59It's a good question. Generic data.

16:01I actually like to wear these plain t-

16:02shirts to stream because of lighting,

16:05basically.

16:06So if I wear a white t-shirt, the

16:09highlights blow out.

16:12If I wear a dark t-shirt, the shadows go

16:15crazy with noise.

16:17So I have to wear something in the middle.

16:19So I bought four of the same t-shirts for

16:21making videos.

16:23To keep it simple.

16:27See, I was just going to pick one in the

16:29drawer of data t-shirts I've got and go

16:32from there.

16:34Good.

16:36You've clearly thought about this more than

16:37I have.

16:38I have to, unfortunately, because when you

16:41go to hit a video and you don't want to

16:44spend time looking at your wardrobe saying

16:46what's suitable or what's not creased.

16:49Let me shout out.

16:53Tim, when we go for the keynote and it's on

16:56the screen, because we're going to

16:58obviously do that full screen, are we then

16:59killing the comments or are we leaving the

17:01comments in?

17:02Good question.

17:03So I can add this widget to every screen.

17:06So, for example, like this view doesn't

17:09have it on, but I think it would be good to

17:11have it on in some screens.

17:13And it resets the widget every time I

17:15switch that, which is really irritating.

17:18I feel like if I had left it in here, maybe

17:23that wouldn't have happened.

17:25So Mark's saying that my mic's a bit louder

17:27than yours, but that just might be me

17:30talking louder.

17:32I can deal with that, don't worry.

17:34I can silence him a little bit more here.

17:39It's a test stream, so I've just made

17:41another chat and that's put it on every

17:44screen.

17:45And will it stay? Yes.

17:46So it stays on every screen.

17:48So what I need to do is optimise its

17:51position.

17:53But then I don't want it coming up here.

17:55So, OK, this is a bit tricky.

17:58I think on this view, if we don't have the

18:00widget, but then you will lose the previous

18:03.

18:03So what you're saying is if we swap and it

18:04's not on there, we lose any previous chat.

18:07Yeah, exactly.

18:08Because it refreshes, it's like a new

18:10browser tab.

18:11So it refreshes the stream.

18:13We could say always show messages so they

18:15always stay.

18:17I wonder if that will keep it, that will

18:18stop it from...

18:20Let's try that.

18:21So let's try this.

18:25I think I can... Oh, interesting.

18:28I think I can...

18:32Oh, wow.

18:33I can just chat to my own stream from the

18:35tool.

18:36That's interesting.

18:37More comments.

18:38So now let's test this.

18:41Go to the side.

18:44Go to the live stream.

18:47Go to this screenshot.

18:49OK, that's all good.

18:50Oh, sweet.

18:51I've just noticed that.

18:52That's awesome.

18:54You can just chat straight into the stream.

18:56Wait, that makes it so much easier because

18:58the main thing I was thinking about was

19:00being

19:01able to view it so we could respond to any

19:02chats.

19:03But if we can see them on the right, I've

19:04just noticed that.

19:05That's really cool.

19:06Yeah, yeah, yeah.

19:07It's all in here.

19:08If anyone is wondering, we're using

19:10something called Ecamm Live, but that's...

19:13Nice one.

19:14There's Latoya's thumbs.

19:16So if we now swap back to there, so Latoya

19:18then stays there.

19:20Yeah, but I haven't removed it from all the

19:21streams.

19:22Oh, you haven't removed it yet.

19:23Yeah, yeah, yeah.

19:24So I think I want to keep it on this scene.

19:29Go to that one.

19:31Disappears.

19:32Go back.

19:33No, it resets it every time.

19:38Downside of using that.

19:40But it's fine.

19:42I think we can be tactical about stuff and

19:44I can also bring stuff in on screen if that

19:47makes sense.

19:48I'll try and see if there's a better widget

19:49.

19:50Let me take a note of that before I forget.

19:55Better stream overlay that persists.

20:01I think given that everyone will be

20:04watching on YouTube...

20:07I think it's fine.

20:09Because everyone's watching on YouTube,

20:10they'll be able to see the chat anyway,

20:12right?

20:12Anyway, exactly.

20:13It's mainly...

20:14It's on the right-hand side.

20:15And then if we can see the chat within Ec

20:17amm's...

20:18Yeah.

20:19Then actually the chat becomes pointless at

20:21this point.

20:22Yeah.

20:23And I can also pull up anything from the

20:26past.

20:27So for example, I can bring them up like

20:29this, right?

20:30So...

20:31Which works.

20:32I think you're right.

20:33We don't need this constant stream on the

20:35video.

20:36Yeah.

20:37If we leave it as is...

20:38Because even on a replay of songs or a

20:39Twitch replay, they can have the live chat

20:40replay

20:41as well on YouTube.

20:42Yeah, yeah, yeah.

20:43I think it's useful for the beginning

20:44before we get started into the conference.

20:47Then during the conference, we'll drop it.

20:50And then at the end, we can put it back.

20:54So maybe one of them where we'll have this

20:56view with it in.

20:58Yep.

20:59And then when the keynote starts, we're

21:00swapping between big and small.

21:03I guess we'll just keep it as big, right?

21:05Yeah, yeah.

21:06So this view and this view with the video

21:08on are probably the best.

21:10So just play that.

21:12No desktop required.

21:14The other thing is I've also got volume

21:16control in the...

21:18That's really confusing.

21:19There's always more than one place where

21:20you can control the volume.

21:22So I've just realized the YouTube volume

21:23and sets are really low, which might

21:25explain why

21:26it doesn't sound as full to people.

21:28But this is good.

21:30Okay.

21:31You two should continue doing the podcast.

21:34Hey, that's like a bad kind of thing that

21:36we haven't done a podcast in ages.

21:39Yeah, exactly.

21:40That's what it actually is.

21:42We do need to do one.

21:48This is it.

21:49This is the new form of podcast, right?

21:51Vodcast, they call it.

21:53Vodcasting.

21:54Yeah, yeah, yeah.

21:55Right.

21:56Let's see.

21:57I want to see if we can get people...

22:02This actually works.

22:04You can try and periscope it.

22:07I didn't want to try and take on too much

22:11at once, but there is a capability to

22:13livestream

22:14into Twitter, into your own feed.

22:16So in essence, people can watch the same

22:20stream in different places.

22:24The thing I've seen that doesn't work as

22:26well there is you get two streams of

22:28comments.

22:30That's too much, yeah.

22:36Which, yeah, so like, well, if you want us

22:40to read your comments, go onto the YouTube.

22:44Don't watch us on Twitter.

22:46Exactly.

22:47Cool.

22:48Send a simple tweet out.

22:51Let's see what happens.

22:53Didn't put any sort of useful links to it,

22:56but if you click on it, it goes to the

23:00right

23:01place.

23:02Yeah.

23:03Cool.

23:04I'm not sure if you can see it on the left

23:06as you post something else online, but

23:08seeing

23:09everyone get their merch from Tableau, it's

23:12good fun.

23:14Yeah.

23:15No, yeah.

23:16Are you the guy who hasn't got it and you

23:19're sort of like sat here like...

23:23I've got it.

23:24Can you not see it?

23:25Oh, he's turned up.

23:27Nice.

23:28So after all of that this morning...

23:29It came over like an hour after we spoke.

23:32There you go.

23:33You can't really see what's happening

23:35because it's too bright, but I'll leave it

23:37there.

23:38Plus you've got a bit of a blur going on,

23:40right?

23:42It's actually just called depth of field.

23:48I've got a proper camera.

23:49It's not glass.

23:54It's a proper camera, proper lens.

23:57I could take it off, but that would not be

24:00good for the lighting because it's quite

24:02dark

24:03and I've got these lights on, so it wouldn

24:05't look good.

24:06But it's all good.

24:07All right.

24:08What happens if I press this button?

24:10Oh, right.

24:11I'm pressing a button.

24:13It's just swapping my big feed with the

24:16actual feed.

24:17Cool.

24:18Oh, I can even see the whole stream.

24:20Oh, I didn't know this.

24:21This whole time I've had...

24:23Okay.

24:24Interesting.

24:25Well, this is why I've been watching.

24:27I've been watching the whole stream on the

24:29big bit.

24:30Yeah, yeah, yeah.

24:32Yeah.

24:33Okay.

24:34Which is why I'm going to be watching the

24:36keynote on.

24:37I'll be listening and watching through this

24:38.

24:39Yeah, yeah.

24:41Yeah, this is good.

24:44I think we're pretty good.

24:45I think everything is good.

24:47Okay.

24:48You got an iMessage.

24:49You got an iMessage, not me.

24:52Right.

24:53I can even favorite messages in case you

24:54want to come back to them.

24:56So that's a useful thing.

24:57Can you do that as well?

24:58Can you favorite some of the messages?

25:00No.

25:02Okay.

25:03I think I can kick you out as well.

25:06That's interesting.

25:07I won't do that.

25:09Cool.

25:10So I don't think there's anything else for

25:13us to discover.

25:13So going back to the comments, apparently

25:14...

25:15Yeah, go on.

25:16Apparently, Andrew's YouTube on his TV just

25:18auto-connected to this.

25:20Like that is...

25:23Say what?

25:24So...

25:25I'm just reading up the comments from

25:26earlier.

25:27Andrew said that his YouTube on his TV just

25:29connected automatically.

25:31All right.

25:32It just...

25:33Big screen.

25:34I think it does that.

25:35I think if you go live on YouTube and you

25:37subscribe to someone, it by default tries

25:41to put you into their live stream because

25:43it just assumes that you've subscribed to

25:45this

25:45person and just throws...

25:46Oh, and you're interested.

25:47Yeah, yeah.

25:48It just puts it next.

25:50And YouTube's trying to pivot to live

25:51content more, if that makes sense.

25:54So they will put you in even if you haven't

25:56suggested it, even if it's not even the

26:00kind

26:00of thing you want to do.

26:01Some people never watch live streams and it

26:02still chucks them in.

26:04So it's a bit weird.

26:06But okay, this is good.

26:07I don't watch live streams, right?

26:09Like my YouTube rabbit holes, but I don't

26:11think I've ever watched a live stream.

26:14Yeah.

26:15I have something called preview mode, which

26:18...

26:19What is this?

26:22Back to live mode.

26:24Oh, I can change the design without

26:25changing everything.

26:27Okay, this is good.

26:29Right.

26:30Yeah, do send us a pic, Andrew.

26:33That would be great.

26:34I'd love to see that.

26:35Do it on Twitter or something.

26:38What is this comment box?

26:39I'm hitting a chat button and it's not

26:42doing anything.

26:44That is interesting.

26:46What is that?

26:50This is...

26:51Oh, this is okay.

26:54Interesting.

26:55I think I can get the comments on screen.

26:59I think I can get it comments on screen.

27:01I just don't know what I'm doing wrong.

27:06No, not that.

27:09Cancel.

27:12It's going to be one of these stream labs.

27:16Keeping running.

27:17Oh, this might be the option that I think I

27:20didn't tick.

27:22Right.

27:23I think I've got it.

27:26So...

27:30Switch that off.

27:38Let's do this.

27:39I'm enjoying the oscillation between...

27:45We peaked at 11 viewers at some point and

27:48we're now back at three.

27:49It always happens.

27:50There was a hype when you go live, right?

27:53Yeah, yeah, yeah.

27:54I think it was...

27:55And then when your tweet went out, we were

27:56up at seven or eight and then we're back a

27:58year.

27:58It's interesting.

27:59I'm intrigued by these numbers.

28:06I'm intrigued by the numbers.

28:10Where has it put the...

28:12Okay, so that's the test.

28:17Where is that going to come in?

28:20Oh, okay.

28:23That's a weird one.

28:25Let's not do that.

28:26Don't feel like...

28:27That's probably not where you want to put

28:29it.

28:30Okay.

28:31Test again.

28:35Oh, here we go.

28:38Okay, this is huge.

28:40Let's do some editing.

28:43Make video bigger and our faces small.

28:46Okay.

28:47Yeah, so Mimo, I think you might have

28:49missed the earlier bit, but we've got the

28:51ability

28:52to swap between the two.

28:53Yeah, we've got the ability to switch

28:54between these two like this.

28:56So I think during the keynote, we'll have

29:01this one mainly.

29:03And then during the pre-stream, we'll swap

29:05down to this one and then just us as well.

29:08So we're just testing a couple of the

29:09different ways.

29:11So I think I've mastered the widget because

29:13look, we came back and it's still there.

29:16Nice.

29:17So this is good.

29:19So we can go back and have it just on this

29:22and the other one and we're good.

29:25Wicked.

29:26Right.

29:27We've been streaming for 30 minutes, mate.

29:31I think General Levy.

29:36Incredible.

29:38Said in the most British way possible.

29:43Oh, God.

29:45If you're watching the stream and you got

29:49that joke, let us know.

29:52But now I think I think I think we're

29:53pretty much set.

29:55I don't think there's anything else we can

29:56add to this other than I think we've

29:57figured

29:58out the chats in the comments.

29:59They appear and disappear.

30:01They appear after a while.

30:03So we can leave it on this view.

30:04We don't need it on this view.

30:06We come back to this view.

30:07They're there in the middle.

30:10We've got this view, which we get rid of

30:12them and the video.

30:14Back again.

30:15I don't use OBS, Mimo.

30:17I was planning to use OBS and then I got a

30:21new MacBook.

30:23And so I switched to I decided to use Ecamm

30:26Live because I'd heard good things about it

30:28.

30:28And the main reason I wanted to use the Ec

30:30amm Live is so that Ravi wouldn't have to

30:32use

30:32Zoom to dial into this and then me

30:35essentially use OBS to sample Zoom.

30:39But then Ravi wouldn't be able to see what

30:41you're seeing.

30:42So what this solution does nicely is it

30:45gives Ravi a view of what I'm seeing in

30:47real time.

30:48And it's also what you see in the stream.

30:50So it's a very nice integrated solution.

30:53And yeah, it's running on a laptop,

30:55basically.

30:56We did this last year.

30:58Last year was like the keynote I had on my

31:01screen so it was in sync with Tim.

31:04We had one, I had one ear pod in that was

31:07speaking to him on FaceTime or Zoom.

31:10And then another that was listening to the

31:12keynote.

31:13It was a chaotic setup so it was so much

31:15better.

31:16It was janky.

31:18So this is much more seamless.

31:20I think you've had a better experience

31:23joining.

31:24Yeah.

31:26I think I've had a much, much better

31:27experience managing it.

31:29Yeah.

31:31And I can change anything real time.

31:33Yeah, go for it.

31:35Yeah, here's a question.

31:36So tomorrow, what time are we thinking?

31:41It's a five o'clock kickoff.

31:43It's a five o'clock kickoff.

31:44The Tableau YouTube stream, which is what

31:45we'll be using in the feed.

31:47So some inside baseball.

31:49This is the stream ready to go.

31:52I have them all tuned up already.

31:55So I'm just using the full screen view over

31:57here.

31:58Switch to it.

31:59That's basically what it's going to be.

32:01So we'll watch the YouTube stream, not the

32:04stream inside of the player.

32:08I back YouTube to be more reliable.

32:11That will also mean that we might have some

32:14lag compared to that player, but that's

32:17fine.

32:18If anything happens and the YouTube stream

32:21goes down because Tableau, something

32:23happens there,

32:23then I have a plan B, which is to go

32:26basically watch it from the pages, if that

32:29makes sense.

32:30So I think we're pretty good.

32:33Nice.

32:34And what time are we starting?

32:35Are we starting five minutes before, 10

32:36minutes before?

32:37Fifteen minutes before.

32:38Tableau starts five minutes before, and we

32:40start 15 minutes before just to catch

32:43people as they're coming online.

32:44Fifteen minutes means if something goes

32:46wrong, we've got 15 minutes to fix it, but

32:49nothing should go wrong.

32:51This setup is pretty solid.

32:53Because of pros of this.

32:54Yes, exactly.

32:56Tableau Idris Incri, if it crashes the

32:59stream.

33:00Yeah, it's true.

33:03I totally agree.

33:04Anyone else able to recommend a good TC

33:06session about leveling up in Tableau?

33:10Hey, Max, this is the greatest hits of

33:15stuff me and Ravi has done in a while.

33:16I love it.

33:17Love it.

33:18Yeah, I think it's a pretty good session.

33:21Fun fact, Ravi and I haven't actually

33:23watched the session itself.

33:25We recorded it, but we had to hand it over

33:28to Tableau to edit it.

33:29And we sort of said to ourselves that we'd

33:31watch it along with everyone else.

33:33But we'd planned it, of course, we kind of

33:34went through it and it was a very strict 25

33:37minute sort of timeframe.

33:39So it's not long, very, very compact

33:41session, 25 minutes to fit in with the

33:43episode structure that they want.

33:46Again, this is an exclusive for the four

33:48people watching right now.

33:51But it's a bit different from what the

33:52actual session title is.

33:54So if anyone goes into thinking, "Oh, yeah,

33:56I'm going to learn Tableau better."

33:59We addressed that early on.

34:01But it's more like a history lesson.

34:05And more of like doubling down on why Table

34:08au is doing such things and where are they

34:10going now and next with it.

34:12Yeah, so if I go to...

34:15Why is it telling me to register? I've

34:17already registered. Come on.

34:20This is a better website than recent years.

34:23So I think Tableau deserves some credit.

34:26Yeah, it's actually pretty good.

34:30That's my registration ticket.

34:34What am I doing wrong here?

34:36So you want to go back to where you were?

34:39Yeah.

34:41And then go to build your schedule?

34:47There you go.

34:48Yeah, well, "TC convinced my server admins

34:49to finally get current."

34:51Hey, there might be something on that.

34:54There might be something on that where they

34:56talk about the changing release cadence.

34:59I think there already has been something on

35:01that.

35:02I'll save it.

35:04Has there been a block?

35:06I think there has been an announcement, but

35:08it's not been sort of emphasized.

35:12I don't think Tableau wants to emphasize it

35:14, to be fair.

35:15So the change is essentially that on-prem

35:18ise servers are going to go to a six-monthly

35:21update schedule.

35:23That doesn't mean they won't get patched

35:24for six months.

35:26It just means the updates won't come every

35:29quarter as we're used to.

35:32Tableau Online will continue to get them

35:33quarterly, but Tableau Server will only get

35:35them every six months.

35:37And that's essentially because a customer

35:39said the Tableau update too fast.

35:42I personally don't think that's a great

35:43excuse, but I guess that's a topic for

35:46another podcast.

35:48I think it's a great excuse.

35:50Anyway, I agree with it.

35:52I was pushing for it.

35:55Mimo has noted on a technical point, our

36:00names aren't central to the – what do you

36:03call it?

36:03It's squabble?

36:05Yeah, I had to move this around.

36:08Let me do this.

36:10These are not perfectly centered to the squ

36:13ircle.

36:14Squircle.

36:16It's a good technical point.

36:18What I will say is I think they are.

36:22I think there's something going on with the

36:24squircle.

36:25For example, if I make myself not a squirc

36:27le and I just make it a square, you'll see

36:29that the boundaries of the sides is sort of

36:33weird.

36:34The squircle makes you think that they're

36:36in the sort of –

36:37And also I guess it's the name and the font

36:39and the size makes it look a bit weird.

36:42If I do this, if I make this exactly the

36:45same size, move it across, set it in.

36:50There you go.

36:52I wish there was more alignment tools.

36:54I don't know if I can bring in a grid.

36:56Can I bring in a grid?

36:58That's how you'd fix this really, right?

37:02Just bring in a grid.

37:04It has a grid for halves.

37:08Snapping.

37:09It has these for the edge, but it doesn't

37:11have them for the middle, which is where I

37:13actually want them.

37:15Now I've messed this up.

37:18That's good.

37:20Maybe a circle is better so that people don

37:23't –

37:25Feel like you don't need to do the

37:27distortion as much.

37:28Exactly.

37:30A circle is just better.

37:32Plus it's aesthetically pleasing to have a

37:35circle anyway.

37:37Thanks, Mimo. Thanks for the feedback.

37:39So you're going to show our session?

37:44Yes, I am. That's what I was trying to do

37:46and I forgot.

37:48This is the tricky bit. I had not thought

37:51about this.

37:52Here we go. Here's a session.

37:54Trebleau drill down how to level up in

37:55Tableau.

37:56Obviously it's in three different time

37:57zones.

37:58These are the different time zones that you

38:00can watch it in.

38:01The best time zone I think to watch the

38:03sessions is the American one because that's

38:07the time zone that has them first.

38:11Then it's the Asian time zone, which has

38:13them second.

38:14Then it's the UK time zone, which has them

38:16the next day.

38:18So if you're watching this in the UK, you

38:20have a good chance of having everything

38:21sport for you.

38:22Mimo made a good point. When you put that

38:24on screen, our position changed.

38:26That's probably because you did it on a

38:28previous template.

38:30I did it on this one.

38:33Yeah.

38:35And we went back to squirkles when you went

38:37there as well.

38:38Mimo, for context, each of these views will

38:42have a slightly different positioning

38:46because they're independent.

38:49Because I don't want the text to be the

38:50same size in all of them.

38:52These two will have slightly different

38:55setups.

38:57I'm probably giving everyone nausea doing

38:58this.

38:59But yeah, we'll fix this later. I'll go

39:02back and do it.

39:04Anyway, back to the session.

39:06I'm going to try to drill down how to level

39:07up in Tableau.

39:08Three time zones. If you're in the UK, you

39:10'll watch it last.

39:11If you're in America, you'll watch it first

39:12.

39:13I believe all the sessions will be

39:14available after the conference.

39:16If I go to episodes, my TC21, there is an

39:22on-demand section.

39:23I believe that is for stuff that's coming

39:25after.

39:26I bought my schedule, all episodes.

39:31Am I right in saying that or am I making an

39:33assumption?

39:35What?

39:38Sessions afterwards.

39:40I think they're going to be on demand.

39:43Yeah, that's correct.

39:44On demand.

39:45So the on-demand episodes are slightly

39:46different as well.

39:47So they'll be the ones after this room,

39:50they'll be online.

39:51I think there's also going to be a few that

39:54you can watch from previous years and also

39:57previous content.

39:58Correct.

39:59I think there's episodes.

40:01Yeah, that's what Salesforce were calling

40:03them in their conference episodes.

40:05It's nice. It's a nice way of thinking of

40:07it like a streaming service, right?

40:09Yeah.

40:10Cool.

40:11So yeah, that's pretty much that.

40:14I'm happy with that.

40:16Call it a day there, guys.

40:1840-minute stream.

40:20Mimo being picky is the reason why things

40:22get better.

40:24This is superb. Thank you for the feedback.

40:27It's absolutely what we need, so thank you,

40:29thank you for that.

40:31For everyone who's watching, tune in

40:33tomorrow.

40:35This will be a lot more polished.

40:36We figured out a ton of stuff.

40:38Everything's set up.

40:39It's going to be a blast.

40:40I'm going to move this a bit to the left so

40:41it's not running over your face, Ravi.

40:44And I need to still get higher.

40:47I need to sort of be here.

40:50There to match your thing.

40:52So yeah.

40:54I'm not going to get it perfect.

40:56Cool.

40:58Thank you, everyone, for watching.

41:00I'm going to stop the stream now, so it's

41:02going to cut off,

41:04but I always have to bear in mind the lag.

41:07So when I click Finish, we have to not talk

41:10for about 10 seconds before.

41:12Otherwise, it's a bit weird.

41:14Cool. Thanks for watching, guys.

41:15See you soon.

41:16Right. Tune in, everyone.

41:18Bye.

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